Global MapleStory Best in Slot/Progression Guide

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    LittleLamb published a new article:

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    Great update with v1! Tables are welcomed :D
     
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    Thank you! There might be a few errors lying around but for the most part, it is basically complete.
     
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    looks mostly pretty good

    feedback
    • some parts use lists and some use tables, make it consistent
    • make whitespace consistent (ex. Where can I find these? has no line breaks before it)
    • table of contents
    • rage rings are for sure in gachapon
    • BoD is for sure NOT in gachapon. It was only obtainable before in philo books, and they probably won't put it back
    • don't use text colors that are hard to see on light mode (ex. trickster)
    • add an explanation somewhere for what transposed sw means and what items you inherit from for each slot
     
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    looks good, but is there any potential for lucky items to be bis?
     
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    Not really. At the very end of the day, Arcane Umbra Shoulder > Scarlet Shoulder, Transposed Sweetwater Hat is most certainly > Lucky Hat. Absolab Shoulder is still probably better than Scarlet Shoulder if you have an assload of stat, but it's not really out of the question.
     
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    Id like to point out that the 7 Day Monster Parker is stronger than the cvel or cvonbon medal.
    [​IMG]

    And do you ever plan on adding a section for Reboot?
     
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    No I do not. It may or may not be more powerful than the Chaos Vellum Medal, but I'll put it up there anyway.
     
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    Here is some quick math I did on it. Unless someone has endgame IED and no basically no dmg and boss (less than 350 combined) then it is better than the cvel medal as well. [​IMG]
     
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    Again, I've noted that the CVell and CVB medals were extremely edge case in cases where the ATT and Stat would give less damage than the IED or Boss. That said, YMMV; you cannot say that because you have the highest IED from non-class sources that 10% IED will always be better than the 5% Boss from the CVell medal. Your data isn't practical. That's all I'm saying.
     
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    Except the IED is always better because the medal also has stat and att. The only time this really starts to break down is when someone has over 99% IED without the medal (which they shouldn't as most optimal endgame potential set ups require only 1 line of IED), in which case the Beater medal or ReZero medal would be next best.
     
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    I don't think you understand how quickly Stat and ATT deteriorate as you get more and more of it. For the sake of reference, Arcane Umbra hat beats Transposed Sweetwater Hat merely because the 10% IED on the Hat trumps the 400~ all stats at the very end of the day... which is what these choice of medals are in response to. When you have enough stats and att, the Damage increase is so negligible that you're basically ignoring stats on items now.
     
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    I am aware of how att and stats do diminish, however you cant just ignore something because the gains are small. Here is the medal at 99% IED, something no one should have naturally without event buffs and party buffs, Ive taken the total dmg gain at 2000 att and 4000 stat (not sure how much base stat you can get on reg servers) but on Reboot you can get about 1400 att and ~3400 base stat. The cvel medal just starts becoming better past 98.5% IED.
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    I don't think you understand how small of a gain it actually gets in normal server. Also, visual IED is deceiving because it does not account IED from skills and certain passives, making this IED less valuable. That's not to say the IED from the Arcane Umbra Hat example is much worse; the actual amount of stat you would need to try to break that IED is impossibly large, mind you.
     
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    I wasn't talking about the visual IED though, and as far as Im aware normal servers and Reboot have nearly the same IED, the only exception being Zero Link.
     
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    Do you know how much IED some classes get? For example, Marksman's Rangefinder gives them anywhere from 50-71% IED. You also have Vital Hunter which gives them 50% more IED... My point is, that medal is not absolutely BiS at the end of the day, and is just merely one of the contenders; the other being Chaos Vellum Medal.
     
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    #17 Yshtir, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:59 AM
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    Yes Im aware of how much IED some classes can get, and even for Marksmen the MP medal is better than the cvel medal for both regular and Reboot servers. Regular server Marksmen should have a total of ~450% boss + dmg and Reboot Marksmen should have ~500% boss+dmg. IED values taken from here.
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    I think arcane hat isn't BIS in regular servers due to how much IED% you can get from other sources.
    Endgame IED is around 97-98% at which point the 20% ied on the arcane hat provides only a very small increase in final damage compared to the stat and attack gains from going 4 set transposed sw
     
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    You'd be surprised how little damage you gain from stat and att very late game. Enough so that the IED on the Hat is better than the stat increases.
     
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    Assuming all of the arcane equips are obtainable, why is it that arcane cape/boots/gloves beat transposed SW? Is the 10% IED and 30% Boss actually better than the loads of attack/stat you get from transposed SW?

    Also, I'm guessing all of these equips should be primed for maximum gains?